Dalembert "Playing For Heat Would Be Fantastic"

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“That would be fantastic,” Dalembert said in an interview Sunday night from Haiti with FOX Sports Florida about the possibility of joining Miami, which is where more than 50 of his relatives live and is about one hour south of his Boca Raton, Fla., home.

http://www.foxsportsflorida.com/11/27/11/Samuel-Dalembert-talks-Haiti-joining-the/landing_heat.html?blockID=613744&feedID=3720

I've been calling this for months, so, pretty expected to me. Really don't think he's coming back - happy if he does, but, writing seems on the wall.

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If he wants to take less money there is not much to be done

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I'm guessing they'll just throw their MLE at him given their gaping hole in the middle, and I won't be comfy giving him much more than that anyway. Me think he gone.

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There are teams out there that would pay more IMO

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More than the MLE? I agree - big men are a premium but I just don't think he's worth eating into the Kings cap space for anything more than that. I mean, sign him, Marcus, Jimmer and you ate a good portion of that space.

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More than the MLE? I agree - big men are a premium but I just don't think he's worth eating into the Kings cap space for anything more than that. I mean, sign him, Marcus, Jimmer and you ate a good portion of that space.

If Miami offers a longterm contract for Dalembert, I wouldn't have wanted him then. I thought a 3 year deal max would have been right, since he played better in SAC than he did elsewhere, so there's not much positive history to go on.

To me, it's more about the number of years with Dalembert, than the short-term yearly salary. I woudln't have wanted a long-term contract for him.

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they can't offer him a long term deal I think
Didn't they shorten the MLE?

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I don't think the Heat are in the tax as of yet, so, they have the normal 5 million MLE to spend. If they're in the tax, it's 3.

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And as far as length, non-tax teams can offer 4 year deals, tax paying only 3 year deals. Teams under the cap (which is new) can do 2.5 for 2 years.

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they can't offer him a long term deal I think
Didn't they shorten the MLE?


I don't think the Heat are in the tax as of yet, so, they have the normal 5 million MLE to spend. If they're in the tax, it's 3.

Yeah, the Heat aren't a tax paying team. They filled out their C and PG spot with scrubs last year. Joel Anthony is a scrub, and unfortunately at this point, so were Ilgauskas and Dampier.

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I believe Miami is 10 million over and they still have to fill 4 or 5 spots....so they will be over the threshold most likely

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http://www.storytellerscontracts.com/

They are at $62,546,605.

They need 4 more players. They can sign 3 players to minimum salaries, and Dalembert to the MLE.

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Storytellers says 66,967,444
and I'm not sure what the threshold will be yet

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My question is are they going to sign a bunch of crap players just to get Dalembert?
or go over the threshold to sign a few quality role players

they are on the clock now

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This is what I'm seeing:

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http://www.storytellerscontracts.com/

They are at $62,546,605.

They need 4 more players. They can sign 3 players to minimum salaries, and Dalembert to the MLE.


Storytellers says 66,967,444
and I'm not sure what the threshold will be yet


This is what I'm seeing:

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Ok that image is hard to read but it has the $62,546,605 number.

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Do do waaaaaa


"What is best for you might not be for the most money," he added, hinting that he might sign for the mid-level exception. "All the Haitian people I talk to say, ‘You have to come to Miami,"' he continued. It's far from a done deal, and while he mentioned the Knicks and Rockets as possibilities, the Heat seem to be in the lead for Dalembert's services at this point.

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My question is are they going to sign a bunch of crap players just to get Dalembert?
or go over the threshold to sign a few quality role players

they are on the clock now

I don't think they can sign good players. They only have the "non-tax paying MLE" available. They can't use the non-tax MLE and get to a salary greater than $4 Million above the tax.

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A team in any season that uses the Non Tax Payer Mid Level Exception or the Bi-Annual Exception, or that in year 3 or after acquires a free agent in a sign-and-trade transaction, cannot at any time thereafter have a team salary at any point during the season in excess of $4 Million above the Tax level.

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Do do waaaaaa

If they can't get Dalembert, then try to get DeAndre Jordan. Just don't let the starting rotation have Thompson or Hickson next year. They need a better starting big.

Try for Tyson Chandler.

Maybe Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, if cheap enough (less years).

Or Humphries, or David West.

Or Kirilenko at PF.

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The thing that bums me out is the cap room situation. They have all this cap room and the free agent crop is just really shitty for what they need.

Granted, they can use their cap space in a trade scenario (and there very well might be teams looking to drop cost with the new CBA), so I'm hoping they go that route but the last thing I personally want to see is the Kings digging into their space for some average role players. Between Thornton and Jimmer, that's a good 7-8 mill off the board right there. And sadly, the Kings have to overpay/over extend players to play here generally, so, I'm sitting in the go big or go home ideology right now.

Throw the money at a restricted free agent or hit the trade market.

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I don't think they can sign good players. They only have the "non-tax paying MLE" available. They can't use the non-tax MLE and get to a salary greater than $4 Million above the tax.

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A team in any season that uses the Non Tax Payer Mid Level Exception or the Bi-Annual Exception, or that in year 3 or after acquires a free agent in a sign-and-trade transaction, cannot at any time thereafter have a team salary at any point during the season in excess of $4 Million above the Tax level.

they can cut up the MLE

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they can cut up the MLE

True, not a bad idea.

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The thing that bums me out is the cap room situation. They have all this cap room and the free agent crop is just really shitty for what they need.

Granted, they can use their cap space in a trade scenario (and there very well might be teams looking to drop cost with the new CBA), so I'm hoping they go that route but the last thing I personally want to see is the Kings digging into their space for some average role players. Between Thornton and Jimmer, that's a good 7-8 mill off the board right there. And sadly, the Kings have to overpay/over extend players to play here generally, so, I'm sitting in the go big or go home ideology right now.

Throw the money at a restricted free agent or hit the trade market.

The Clippers got Marcus Camby a few years ago when Denver wanted to get out of the luxury tax. There might be similar deals this time.

Also, for the most part, I'd rather have an near all-star player, or no one. Outside of the names I've listed, there really isn't anyone else I'd have, they'd just be filler.

And outside of Humphries, West, or Chandler, I can live without Kirilenko and Mbah a Moute. Those guys don't really add that many wins anymore.

It's going to take a significant increase in talent to make the playoffs IMO, so that's what I think the team needs.

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Yeah, not really feeling much of the free agents outside of a very select few. They need a trade - the FA crop isn't making them that much better, especially given the fact that it'll pretty much destroy the cap space they hold.

Thompson and Hickson will be up for new contracts next year, but, neither may even be back - so I don't want to waste the cap space this year just to do it.